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jmtorres ([personal profile] jmtorres) wrote2003-08-02 01:45 pm

Random research

I was actually trying to find the earliest reference of the phrase "hourglass figure" (without much luck--anyone got any idea?) when I found this page:

Jolly Roger. Apparently our standard skull and crossbones wasn't the commonest pirate flag.
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[personal profile] cyprinella 2003-08-02 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. I really haven't a clue - best I could do was the orgination of hourglass itself. I think I always associated it with corsetry, so you could go with the introduction of the corset.

[identity profile] jmtorres.livejournal.com 2003-08-02 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Which originates 1299, long before the hourglass.

Hm.
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[identity profile] jmtorres.livejournal.com 2003-08-03 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Hah! The corsets of this movie were *so* having of the breasts flowing out of the top. I take this as further evidence that the movie was set in the late 1700s rather than early or 1600s. Even though I put costuming fairly low on the list of reliable evidence.
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[personal profile] jcalanthe 2003-08-03 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
B & I still think her corset was more of the flattening variety than the flowing out of the top kind.

[identity profile] jmtorres.livejournal.com 2003-08-03 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
Hee, yes, as we discussed last night. Knock the wind from my sails, will you...
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[personal profile] cyprinella 2003-08-02 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Must remember to check screenname. Hrmph.

Anyway, random article about corset used for squishing rather than breast emphasizing before 1800's that I can't find again. But you probably knew that because you seem to be on top of this history thing. ;)

[identity profile] jmtorres.livejournal.com 2003-08-03 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Whoops, replied, you deleted, fun all around...

Actually, I had some impression of corsets-as-we-know-them being a product of the Victorian era, but had nothing to back this up.

I'm not on top of this history thing so much as learning random tidbits here and there, from people like you. *G*