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so I'm clipping Magicians for this vid I'm making because I want to be more fannish and I'm excited to have a creative idea, even if it is lulzy whatever. I'm currently in the doldrums of season 1 between when the Beast appears (which was the first episode, actually) and when they actually end up in the Library and Fillory and plotty stuff. Seriously there is nothing for my vid in most of early/mid s1. I marked one episode "the one where everyone gets laid, foxes" because it had nothing I wanted to use and I didn't want to come back and think I hadn't clipped it because it wasn't marked. (Then I was like, wait, Quentin and Alice get together in 1x07, pretty sure they break up by the end of the season, they actually had a short relationship for all they keep being heartbroken at each other later on, jeez)
I'm also listening to the audiobook of the first novel, and like people told me Quentin was waaaaay into Eliot in the books but I honestly was surprised a bit. So in what I've listened to so far, Quentin bonded with Eliot during the two weeks before the semester started when they were the only people on campus because Eliot doesn't like to go home to his family and Quentin asked not to after his exam because he was afraid the bubble was going to burst. Then eveyrone comes back on campus and Eliot starts hanging out with his sophomore friends again and leaves Quentin behind and Quentin was all sad.
Then Quentin accidentally (well for the first little bit it's an accident) spies on Eliot blowing a dude and is shocked! aghast! hurt! --that Eliot didn't tell him he was gay, and that Eliot didn't want to fuck Quentin. I am so um what at Quentin. Like, in the first place, maybe I had the advantage of already knowing Eliot was gay because I'd seen the show, but I could have sworn Eliot did tell him?? I thought about it and it was just, Eliot was extremely flamboyant at him, and told him his family thought he was at a school for computer geeeks and homosexuals, which to my ear was obviously a soft coming out to test the waters with Quentin, and Quentin failed to give the proper response, not through bigotry but through obliviousness.
But also, why didn't Eliot do stuff with him? Oh Quentin. *facepalm* Sadly what I've heard is that Quentin is super hung up on Eliot not that they ever actually get together in the books, so I expect this to be a long road of suffering. No wonder fandom likes this. It's pining while oblivious.
It seems like the pining goes in the other direction in the show. There's no particular evidence I've seen that Quentin is into Eliot, though he's not blind to gayness, he's just off being super into Alice and magic. Meanwhile in the first episode apparently Eliot was talking Quentin up to Margo because when she meets him she's like "he doesn't seem THAT special," and just now in 1x08 there was an exchange between Eliot and his (tragically externally magically manipulated) boyfriend about how Quentin is cute, but Eliot called dibs. I mean I know there's the threesome coming up somewhere, I remember being like "I can't decide if this show gave slashers a gift or not" about it, but the first time I watched it I didn't actually get... any particular attraction from Quentin's end? He seemed very blank slate, stuff happened but without his agency. Maybe that was an artifact of how the threesome was presented, where instead of seeing it happen we just see him waking up afterwards all confuzzled, like he was blackout drunk in the fake, cute TV way. I'll definitely be watching that episode closely when I clip it (probably later today?). But I do wonder how much of fandom's read that Quentin is super into Eliot is crossover from the boooks.
also worth noting: I'm kind of surprised no one warned me that if there is a cute fluffy animal, this show will DEFINITELY kill it bloodily.
I'm also listening to the audiobook of the first novel, and like people told me Quentin was waaaaay into Eliot in the books but I honestly was surprised a bit. So in what I've listened to so far, Quentin bonded with Eliot during the two weeks before the semester started when they were the only people on campus because Eliot doesn't like to go home to his family and Quentin asked not to after his exam because he was afraid the bubble was going to burst. Then eveyrone comes back on campus and Eliot starts hanging out with his sophomore friends again and leaves Quentin behind and Quentin was all sad.
Then Quentin accidentally (well for the first little bit it's an accident) spies on Eliot blowing a dude and is shocked! aghast! hurt! --that Eliot didn't tell him he was gay, and that Eliot didn't want to fuck Quentin. I am so um what at Quentin. Like, in the first place, maybe I had the advantage of already knowing Eliot was gay because I'd seen the show, but I could have sworn Eliot did tell him?? I thought about it and it was just, Eliot was extremely flamboyant at him, and told him his family thought he was at a school for computer geeeks and homosexuals, which to my ear was obviously a soft coming out to test the waters with Quentin, and Quentin failed to give the proper response, not through bigotry but through obliviousness.
But also, why didn't Eliot do stuff with him? Oh Quentin. *facepalm* Sadly what I've heard is that Quentin is super hung up on Eliot not that they ever actually get together in the books, so I expect this to be a long road of suffering. No wonder fandom likes this. It's pining while oblivious.
It seems like the pining goes in the other direction in the show. There's no particular evidence I've seen that Quentin is into Eliot, though he's not blind to gayness, he's just off being super into Alice and magic. Meanwhile in the first episode apparently Eliot was talking Quentin up to Margo because when she meets him she's like "he doesn't seem THAT special," and just now in 1x08 there was an exchange between Eliot and his (tragically externally magically manipulated) boyfriend about how Quentin is cute, but Eliot called dibs. I mean I know there's the threesome coming up somewhere, I remember being like "I can't decide if this show gave slashers a gift or not" about it, but the first time I watched it I didn't actually get... any particular attraction from Quentin's end? He seemed very blank slate, stuff happened but without his agency. Maybe that was an artifact of how the threesome was presented, where instead of seeing it happen we just see him waking up afterwards all confuzzled, like he was blackout drunk in the fake, cute TV way. I'll definitely be watching that episode closely when I clip it (probably later today?). But I do wonder how much of fandom's read that Quentin is super into Eliot is crossover from the boooks.
also worth noting: I'm kind of surprised no one warned me that if there is a cute fluffy animal, this show will DEFINITELY kill it bloodily.
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I'm sorry that I haven't been very active on LJ/DW in the last few years; I definitely talked about this a lot on Twitter.
Re: Quentin/Eliot, have you seen S3? Asking for reasons.
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Heh, yep, I've seen the Mosaic episode. I binged the entire thing and am now watching more slowly for vidding. I will be watching that one closely too. Like, I do clearly remember Quentin initiating a kiss in that lifetime montage; so at least some agency; I remember mentally discounting the whole thing for 'isolated together forever' but I also did that when I thought this was going to be a time loop they forgot--when they remembered it, I was like "wait, I think... that was an actual gift? the show may have given slashers an actual gift."
would it be too much to hope that somehow memories of that lifetime together does something to save eliot from the monster in s4
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I have a scene playing out in my head roughly
Quentin: so you like games, right? and you can see eliot's memories? do you want to know about the answer to the Mosaic puzzle? Eliot wouldn't know, I didn't find it until after he died.
Monster: you cannot elicit your friend from me with his memories this is a stupid game you are trying to play
Monster: ...but yes tell me how you won that game
Quentin: So, it turns out there was a tiled buried in the ground, a golden tile, I didn't find it until I was... digging a grave, you know? So there's this one tile that's been left out of the mix that is apparently key, and--the slate was clean, I didn't have any other tries on it just then, but I kind of dropped the golden tile in the middle as like a starting place, because it was obviously important right? if kind of unfair that someone hid it, i mean, for fuck's sake we never had a chance without it
Monster: and once you had it, was the solution plain? What pattern did it make?
Quentin: that's just it it wasn't a pattern it was literally just THAT ONE TILE. Like we didn't even know blank space could be PART of the thing and also absolutely none of the tiles we were given to start with had fuckall to do with it
Eliot: WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE BEAUTY OF ALL LIFE? THAT'S SYMBOLICALLY ASININE WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING THAT SHALLOW AND FACILE?
Quentin: I mean, Ember, probably.
Monster: ...you cannot overcome me in this way! i do not allow it!
Quentin: We already know Ember treated all of Fillory as his own personal soap opera. He probably got off on watching us bang our heads against the wall.
Eliot: that horny turd. if you hadn't already killed him,,,,,,,,
Monster: stamps feet in a tantrum
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(I really miss Eliot in the current season!)
i don't think the single quote is a spoiler but, 4x5 i am dancing
Re: i don't think the single quote is a spoiler but, 4x5 i am dancing
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It's sort of part of the show's whole thing, that if you love something and/or it's cute it's either actually horrible or something(s) horrible will happen to it.
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exploding cats in the same class as "your childhood favorite was written by a pedophile"?
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yay vidding!
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Interesting! I only ever saw it as a subtle undercurrent and figured it was my own slash-coloured glasses that made me so attuned to it.
so I expect this to be a long road of suffering. No wonder fandom likes this. It's pining while oblivious.
Alas, I wish it were this, but it's pretty much Q suffering because he is obnoxious. (I'm sorry; I do love him in the show and by the end of the books he finally grows up, but he is everything I loathed about self-absorbed men in their twenties!)
There's no particular evidence I've seen that Quentin is into Eliot
You really made me think about that. There's a hug in early season 3 where it becomes clear that Q loves Eliot; I think that's the first time that the pairing really caught me (rather than just being vaguely interested). Oh, and there was the coronation scene in season 1: if you watch how Q&E behave towards each other compared to the crowning of the others, there's a marked difference.
I'm kind of surprised no one warned me that if there is a cute fluffy animal, this show will DEFINITELY kill it bloodily.
I'm sorry. :p I tend to block those parts from memory. S1 was a really messy show.