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jmtorres ([personal profile] jmtorres) wrote2010-05-27 12:58 am

what

robots of dawn: only the robot could give her orgasms!

Gladia is an extremely hard woman to satisfy. She is culturally indoctrinated to find biological human bodies repulsive (to the point where she cannot successfully masturbate). Most robots would just be dildos and incapable of giving her orgasms (because it's not an orgasm unless it's love). She is therefore only capable of having potentially orgasmic attraction to special-case not-quite-human-but-looks-it people/robots, like if they're from another planet or have been specially constructed to look and act as human as possible. Her ideal mate is apparently a humaniform robot named Jander, the mystery of the roboticide of whom is the central plot point of the novel. She can touch him without shame, because robot! She can feel attraction for him, because, looks human! She can know that he wants to give her all the joy in the world, because his programming makes it so, which means at long last she can feel all the joy in the world. It's an orgasm because it's love, unconditional, unending, perfect love, unlike with all those humans who had lives of their own and you know, smelly excretions and stuff.

Okay? Good for her? She found her mate.

Except that she also has this complaint about modern society--where people have all kinds of recreational sex without intention to procreate, especially on these planets with capped population where you have to apply for a license for offspring, and people are having babies in jars instead of in their uteruses anyway, so sex is becoming a social interaction with no greater import than a rousing game of space polo!

NEWSFLASH: APPARENTLY IT IS NOT LOVE UNLESS YOU ARE MAKING BABIES.

BUT WAIT. JANDER THE ROBOT DOES NOT COME EQUIPPED WITH SPERMS. HOW CAN HE EVER MAKE GLADIA TRULY HAPPY? NO MATTER HOW MUCH ATTENTION HE SHOWERS ON HER, CAN IT BE LOVE IF THERE ARE NOT BABIES?

I am seriously disappointed that the resolution of the mystery of Jander's brain-freeze did not involve him repeatedly headdesking over ORGASMS iff LOVE iff BABIES.
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[personal profile] niqaeli 2010-05-27 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah.... Asimov had some fucked up shit in his id.

I love the man's stuff, but yeah. Id. Right there. *twitch*
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[personal profile] branchandroot 2010-05-27 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
*snorts* Ah, yes. Even as a wee child, I remember being kind of "wait..." over that one. And I can vaguely see where Asimov might have thought he was going, contrasting the evils of both extremes, but he really kind of fell down the patriarchalism hole on that.
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[personal profile] alexseanchai 2010-05-27 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
...suddenly I'm very glad I hadn't figured out how to apply critical reasoning to fiction when I read that book, because realizing what you just described would have killed my enjoyment.

I wonder if this is related to why I haven't read anything by Asimov in a long time.