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jmtorres ([personal profile] jmtorres) wrote2011-02-02 11:51 pm
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killjoys

I have spent entirely too much time working out the economy of a system where ray guns can be purchased from vending machines--vending machines stocked by the corporate overlords but located in the zones not under their control.
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[personal profile] jackandahat 2011-02-03 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Oh thank god, I'm not the only one who thought that was odd!

Did you draw any conclusions? Because I'm still scratching my head.

(Unless the logic is that even Draculoids enjoy Show Pony posing. I could understand that one.)
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[personal profile] niqaeli 2011-02-03 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
Current theory: BL stocks them out there so that miscreants out in the zones will buy them and kill each other with them.

No idea why they don't worry about said miscreants banding together and coming after them with said ray guns.

(I am not good with surreality. Or rather, I enjoy it just fine but in narrative fiction I will still always look for a coherent worldbuild and attempt to reconcile everything, even if there is no actual way it can be reconciled.)
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[personal profile] jackandahat 2011-02-03 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
The direction my mind takes with that is "The guns are rigged to be faulty, so the 'troublemakers' will get themselves killed using them". Apparently my mind goes in evil directions?

ETA: The follow-on to that being that the Killjoys are fixing them up so they can be used. Or Tommy Chow Mein, who seems to be the friendly local arms dealer.

Although, it is a pretty elaborate "trap", given the Killjoys are having to hack the machine to get anything out of them.

...dammit, now I'm going to be wondering about this all morning.
Edited (Finishing thought.) 2011-02-03 11:45 (UTC)
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[personal profile] scy 2011-02-03 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems rather ODD that BL would leave weapons lying around unless their sale ultimately served some greater purpose.

*thinks* Even if it's just so that troublesome people get rid of themselves.

But then there is the problem of the Killjoys and others like him who use the weapons against BL.
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[personal profile] jackandahat 2011-02-03 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
For some reason, I didn't even think of money! I was thinking the machines were set up to work by some kind of ID - but of course, by that point in time all "Money" will probably be electronic.

But - re: Money - on the Listening Party, Dr Death Defying talks about "Raising carbons for Gravel Gertie's Orphanage". And on Twitter, Tommy Chow Mein talks about "blow your savings" - so I'm assuming there is some form of currency in use.

But I agree with you on bartering, suspect there's a lot of both bartering goods and services going on out there.
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[personal profile] jackandahat 2011-02-03 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah - I don't even watch the Listenng Party except when Dr D is on screen. I did pull it down as an MP3 though, makes an interesting bus listen.

I haven't seen anything about the source footage, I know some of it is stuff people uploaded to the site when they were asking people to make their own Zones videos.

List here collects up most of the in-'verse slang seen so far, and has all the known "official" Twitters.
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[personal profile] jackandahat 2011-02-03 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohh! Sorry - I thought you meant the fan-made stuff. Yeah - it is all stuff that looks very familar, but it's so distorted. Now I'm curious if anyone has rounded up/identified sources...
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[personal profile] kymellin 2011-02-06 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
I figure the vending machines to be resupply for BL/ind patrols in the outer zones, figuring the zone to be uninhabitable (for who would live outside the comfort and ease of the city, where everything is made safe?) and patrols too far out to resupply easily any other way. I also figured the killjoys patched in to steal the contents of the vending machine because they didn't have an ID badge to scan in to get what they wanted. I doubt a controlled society would have access to actual money to spend as they wished; it seems more likely that your ID badge would give you access to certain things, and keep other things outside your reach. No laser guns for the salvage crews, but for the dracs, lasers for them all!

I haven't read any Killjoy fic, since I really don't want preconceived ideas beyond what is presented in the Danger Days vids. I want to see what G.Way is going to do with the graphic novel before I go fan-based. I know the killjoys in the comic are different than the Danger Days killjoys. Or so he's said. But the Danger Days vids are so fascinating in that 80's post-apocalyptic, early cyberpunk, way - I feel like a kid in a color-enhanced flashback candy store.
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[personal profile] kymellin 2011-02-06 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
I think so. I wondered the same thing, and have been picking up little pieces. I can't find the interview with one of the other people involved with the comic, who talked about working on it. But in one of the interviews given in Europe for the tour, Gerard Way talked about the comic as if it was an upcoming thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CiEd_No5CY.

Is there any decent fanfic out there in case the comic never sees the light of day?