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jmtorres ([personal profile] jmtorres) wrote2010-09-19 07:36 pm

brought to you by some of my classmates in film school

Poll #4485 pronunciation
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How do you pronounce the word "denouement"?

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DAY-new-mon
27 (55.1%)

duh-NOW-mint
6 (12.2%)

some other way which I will explain in comments
16 (32.7%)

What region are you from that most defines your speech patterns?



I can't figure out if I'm being snooty because I took a lot of French in school or if my classmates are philistines. Hmm. Is "philistine" a culturally insensitive insult or is it okay that it's been repurposed since they are not an extant ethnic group? Serious question.

ETA: ahahaha. Between forvo and dictionary.com I have found support for ANY of the three syllables being the emphasis syllable in English.
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[personal profile] zvi 2010-09-20 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Your classmates are philistines.
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[personal profile] cathexys 2010-09-20 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I think i tend to add a syllable, like you in No 1 but with an added -e. But then New Orleans has half the time 4 syllables when i pronounce it :)
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[personal profile] sasha_feather 2010-09-20 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I have read this word a LOT more than I've heard it pronounced. I would probably attempt to say it, "day-NEW-mint". I speak no French whatsoever.
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[personal profile] raine 2010-09-20 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's just region; who taught you and how you learned makes a difference -- my mom taught herself to speak English (it's her fourth language) by reading a dictionary, so when it came time to teach me, her pronunciation and tendency toward phonetics heavily influence the way I pronounce my words today. I've also lived in the Philippines, the Midwest, the South, and now I'm in the Pacific NW; anywhere I've lived, I've been marked as "different". :-)
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[personal profile] synecdochic 2010-09-20 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Closer to the first, but with the accent on the last syllable.
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[personal profile] alexseanchai 2010-09-20 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
day-new-MAW. I blame the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
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[personal profile] blueraccoon 2010-09-20 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
*points up* what she said, although I voted for option #1.
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[personal profile] mjules 2010-09-20 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know that I've ever heard the word said out loud, so I don't actually have a pronunciation for it.

However! I have seriously asked that question re: philistines before. The consensus of my friends at the time was that since they no longer exist, it's okay. I'm still pondering.
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[personal profile] sage 2010-09-20 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
yes, this. day-new-MON, only the last N isn't really all there.

This is how my high school English teachers drilled it into us.
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[personal profile] pommery 2010-09-20 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Erm... 'Den-You-Mon', Though I don't think I ever heard it out loud before, and any french I know is largely influenced by a rural Acadian dialect, also known as Nana.
:)
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[personal profile] laurashapiro 2010-09-20 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Me too.
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[personal profile] niqaeli 2010-09-20 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
DUH-new-muhn, I think, so *roughly* half way between the two, but more towards the first. Which is not how I'd pronounce it if I were trying for a French pronunciation of it, but is how I'd go for it in English.

English's relationship to French is particularly interesting because you had the Norman and Anglo-Saxon mashup, a few hundred years, and then we have all the un-Englishified-in-spelling-and-sometimes-pronunciation French borrow-words. Which account for a not insignificant chunk of our wacky 3% of non-phonetically pronounced words.
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[personal profile] maevele 2010-09-20 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
I am the only philistine here so far then.
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[personal profile] viridian5 2010-09-20 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Being one of those people who reads a lot of words a lot more than I hear them, my personal version is "DAY-new-Ā-mon." I've lived in New York City, northeastern Pennsylvania, and Pittsburgh.
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[personal profile] kymellin 2010-09-20 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
To be technical, I actually pronounce it deh-NOW-mehnt, probably because I associate the spelling with the word "denounce".
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[personal profile] verity 2010-09-20 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
day-NEW-ment

and yes, I know that's not how it's supposed to be pronounced. I'm not sure if this is the byproduct of learning to read before I heard a lot of a words or if I just grew up hearing it pronounced that way. Probably some combination of both.
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[personal profile] lferion 2010-09-20 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Deh-nu-MWAH

:-)
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[personal profile] dragonfly 2010-09-20 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
day-new-MAH

I doubt "philistine" would insult anyone living on behalf of their ethnic group. There is, however, increasing archaeological evidence that the Philistines were cultured, civilized and artistic -- the opposite of how we use the term.
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[personal profile] aris_tgd 2010-09-20 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Aaaand what she said again. I voted for "other" as well.
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[personal profile] softestbullet 2010-09-20 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
"duh-NEW-min"

Haha, oh no, that's completely wrong. :( I've never heard it out loud, so that's just what I made up.

*slinks away*
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[personal profile] fairestcat 2010-09-20 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'll be a philistine with you!
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[personal profile] gelasius 2010-09-20 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
I chose #1, but like several of the above, it's more like day-new-MO(n).
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2010-09-20 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
Duh-NOO-mont.

This is what I get for acquiring most of my vocabulary from reading; some of my pronunciation can be very arbitrary.
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[personal profile] ide_cyan 2010-09-20 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
I pronounce it in French.
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[personal profile] copracat 2010-09-20 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
Oops. I put my pronunciation in the comment for location. I'm Australian.
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[personal profile] zulu 2010-09-20 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Me too!
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[personal profile] ide_cyan 2010-09-20 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's my first language, though. You're from Canada, too?
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[personal profile] zulu 2010-09-20 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, though I'm one of those Western anglophone types. Functionally bilingual, I'd estimate; I was in full immersion from kindergarten onwards.
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[personal profile] ide_cyan 2010-09-20 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
I had an English intensive semester in 6th grade & kept practicing a lot by falling into Dr Who & other fandoms.
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[personal profile] torachan 2010-09-20 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've ever heard it out loud.

In my head when reading it, I say de-NEW-mint (the de is between day and duh, more like d'new). tbh it's not a word I've seen in print all that much, either.
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[personal profile] jenna_thorn 2010-09-20 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
nu-Wah-lens.

Three syllables.

8-) Hi!
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[personal profile] cathexys 2010-09-20 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. That's one of the more typical pronunciations (other than the non-local emphasis on the last syllable and the N'awlins two syllable one). That's why i thought it noteworthy that my husband's family (LA north of NOLA) pronounces the -e in Orleans, thus making it 4 syllables.
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[personal profile] cathexys 2010-09-20 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
And hi :)
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[personal profile] ktnb 2010-09-20 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always heard it day-new-MON in Virginia.